Ok going to ask...this is what the marriage counselor, my counselor and another victim said...how do you agree and any success storys

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Ok, this Tuesday, will be 5 weeks since D-Day. In short, this Nov was 13 years of marriage, 17 together, but my wife, had an emotional affair that lead into a limited sexual affair over 3 months, from end of July to early Oct, but the affair began as friends sometime in April and intensified in June/July. From Oct to D-day, Dec 27th, she never had sex with him and had contact w/him because he would say he was going to tell me. So on D-Day he said it again and she said, this was wrong from the start and I want to fix my marriage if I can. He then called me and told her live with this. She was with him a total of 4 times, on 3 visits. Yes, like any new "couple" they as my wife put it, it just happened the 2nd time, decided that their first time would be twice. Sorry, I digress, anyway, like alot of you I know everything, trust me, everything. Big mistake, however, I can get thru it. Secondly, we see what caused the affair to happen. We were a dead marriage and she thought it was over. It by no means says what she did was right, and she knows this. She knows she choose the easy way and that things might never be repaired. If I want to save the marriage then I will have to accept and then forgive. This leads me to what the Marriage Counselor, my counselor and my neighbor whos husband did this 3 years ago said.
Here it is it's my summary:
We the cheated on, the victims, have got to understand why the cheater did this, that while they are flawed there was a reaon in us that made them do this. That they the cheater, had decided that we the cheated on were no longer worthy, or the marriage was over, and that they did what they did. Now somewhere in their thinking, they start to realize, well is it really over, should i try to make it work, shit I love them (the cheated on), and damn this fantasy really wasnt going to last. Once this happens, the cheaters then look and come back. In my case, the OP contacted me and the cat was out of the bag. Now, here is the best part, we the cheated on, the victim, get to be victims a 2nd time around, if we want to make it work with the cheaters. Because we have to be the ones to step up and accept what the cheater did, move to forgive and then forgive the cheater, but all the while the cheated get to move along at what ever pace they choose, because well, we caused this. Really, say WTF. So, for the "balance" to be right in my situation, I must relearn to date my wife, the cheater, meet her emotional needs, before I can even see her work to repair and make ammends. But the CHEATER GETS TO FEEL HAPPINESS FIRST AT OUR EXPENSE AGAIN. So I guess the leason to be learned here is have an affair. You will crush someone and yet you can get away with it.

Now I could clearly be wrong, but thats basically what I am getting out of this. So, I get to stomach the thought of my wife having sex w/someone, and all the other thoughts that happen to invade your head. Then while feeling low, I get to prop her up and make her feel better as a person to show her I care, I love her and I want to make things right. Yet, what is she supposed to be doing????
Yes a little bitter right now and feeling like I am victimized a second time.
SO, IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN RELATE, HAS BEEN IN THIS LONGER THEN 5 WEEKS AND ARE THERE SUCCESS STORIES THAT MAKE THIS WORTH WHILE.
Thanks

 
By JessicaC on Mon, 01-30-12, 17:20

for the short time I concidered taking my husband back I also felt like I was admitting that I was worth as little as he thought of me... I felt like I was saying "okay, I agree with you" and anyone who knew that he had cheated on me also got to know that I thought that little of myself... and that MUCH of him.

I was about to do something awesome again, but I told myself, "Enough is enough! That's plenty of awesome for one day."

"They say that marriage is about making two lives into one... nobody told me that meant we both would end up becoming HIM"

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By Jayd6594 on Tue, 01-31-12, 05:23

Man you just summed up everything I'm feeling and thinking I spend 2 to 3 hours every damn day reading about low life cheaters and why they do it and how I can make it better so she might not run to another guy again and let him inside her heart and body I understand it takes 2 to make it work and screw it up but in almost 18 yrs I never ran to anyone I faced whatever problems came along and I think most of the ppl in my situation feels that they're just tired of working so hard on something when the other person can just walk away and look elsewhere they should be the ones bringing up the conversations about what , why, when,and where and begging for forgiveness and thanking us everyday for not doing what they did and turn our backs on them and the vows of marriage not sure about anyone else but I'm walking on egg shells cause I'm scared of saying or doing the wrong thing and send her running right back into her world of lies and betrayal I guess I feel like I should be the one breaking down crying everytime this gets brought up and being comforted by her instead of vice versa

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By newly devistated on Tue, 01-31-12, 06:45

Yep. This all sucks. I am not w/o my faults in this. But basically my wife felt it was done and over with. So she got in a relationship and she felt sex is important in a relationship. So, had she done the respectful thing and left, she was going to have sex w/him any way. The problem is not that it was going to happen, that sucks in its own right, but that she just didnt have enough respect for me to be honest.That 8 months of my life were a lie. Every memory detail etc from June thru Dec 27th. All lies. Last night I was like look when are you going to try. Its going on 5 weeks and you act like hey I'm sorry just once is good enough. You heard from him how great you were and all that for weeks before you decided you were going to sleep with him. So why is it ok to act like well, I said I'm sorry and I love you and when I look for assurance you feel you've done it. You made him a priority for a period of time. You say you want this to work and you truely love me and are sorry, ok, dont you think its about time to make me the priority. Our daughter is the first priority but how about start working here. Again, we are being victimized a second time. Someone said we are the better people for taking them back, I dont know.....

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By vmmusa on Tue, 01-31-12, 07:57

N.D. I feel the exact same way. It has been 15 months since D-day and my wife still acts like that.
You should move your post to the Cheated on husbands post, almost all guys trying to get answers.

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By JessicaC on Tue, 01-31-12, 08:06

being the "better person" just reinforces my problems... always the one in control, always the perfectionist, always trying to look like the one who has it together... he's the one who fucks up and i'm the one who cleans up... those are the roles we learned... those roles suck. he reinforces them by continuing to fuck up, continuing to have me clean up... he trusts me, even says he loves me BECAUSE i'm trustworthy "i'm such a good person" but then resents me for it, he plays the role but then uses it as (one of the many) excuses to do hurtful stupid things to me and everyone else, his self-esteem sucks... well maybe it should because he's an asshole! I'm not going to "be the better person" by taking his crap anymore.

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By newly devistated on Tue, 01-31-12, 08:07

Didn't know about that posting. I will do so.

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By newly devistated on Tue, 01-31-12, 08:11

Vmmusa - ok not sure but I can't find that group. Any links?

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By vmmusa on Tue, 01-31-12, 11:08

"Men trying to reconcile after a cheating wife" is the post and it is in this group. I just thought you might get more answers and find the other responses helpful.
By the way, I agree total with your post. It will feel as if you are the only one doing the hard work because you are the one that was really hurt by the infidelity not your wife. She may feel bad but has no clue how devastating her actions were on you. I know my wife can't begin to understand the feelings I go through on a daily basis. You are right, it is not fair at all and that is one thing you will have to live with.

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By vmmusa on Tue, 01-31-12, 11:08

"Men trying to reconcile after a cheating wife" is the post and it is in this group. I just thought you might get more answers and find the other responses helpful.
By the way, I agree total with your post. It will feel as if you are the only one doing the hard work because you are the one that was really hurt by the infidelity not your wife. She may feel bad but has no clue how devastating her actions were on you. I know my wife can't begin to understand the feelings I go through on a daily basis. You are right, it is not fair at all and that is one thing you will have to live with.

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By ange29 on Tue, 01-31-12, 11:47

Newly Devestated - I hear what you are saying, my cheating spouse told me last week on tuesday, that he needs me to show him the reason he fell in love with me. I told him, your the one who cheated and caused me all this pain, and why do I have to do the work to rebuild. He actually had the nerve to tell me he couldn't physically do this for me right now. But I think the real answer is, he doesn't want to do it right now. Yes, I have turned into the person who nags him, who asks him when he is going to fix things, when he is going to help me heal, and he said he is tired of that. He's tired of every time he reaches out to see me, or try to do something nice for me, I fight with him. I only fight with him becuase I am frustrated at what he has done, and he has no answers for me. I know I am letting my pride get in the way, but I am the one who moved out of our home, I am the one who had my life flipped upside down, and he jsut doesn't get it. He want's me to show him what we used to be, is this right or is it crazy!!!

But really, a counselor told you this is what needs to be done? He has made me feel like shit since the day he did this to me, and I still feel like shit 8 months later. Finally when I think I am moving on, he calls, and he pulls out every stop, but he only does this when he thinks I am gone. Why play the games, he is 37 years old, almost 38!!!! I am 30, I am done with the games. I mean is he that selfish that he cannot see what he has done. The crazy thing is, I still see no one past him, but he evidently saw someone past me. I wish I could say there relationship was just sex, but the more I find out things I find out its not. He just really has fun with this person, she's always in a great mood, she's friendly....and those are things I was until this happened. Now i am angry! And I hate being angry.

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