Need to Vent Again...

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Long story short, dealing with aftermath of wife's 2nd affair. Found out in September and told her then & there I wanted divorce, wasn't going through this the rest of my life. She said she'd work on the marriage (heard it before), win me back even if we did divorce, got that this was all her, etc.

She's been doing counseling with the same counselor we saw last time. Unfortunately, I found out that during first round of counseling, while books/counselor were telling her absolutely no contact with other man, she was running to him to keep their lies straight. So I refuse to do marital counseling (obviously I've wavered on the divorce thing) since her actions make me think it was "all for show" last time.

I've moved out, moved back, said let's give it a try to see if anything is still there. Back home for a month, things were fine, but again, I feel like we're sweeping it under the rug because when things are fine it's never talked about. So I told her I need to move out again because I'm not going to have her just wait out my anger, like I feel she did last time.

Of course, while we're together (i.e., she's getting what she wants) she treats me great. When divorce is mentioned, or I ask things like, "what were you thinking when you did this or that?" an argument ensues. 5 months in, my anger and pain is still very, very raw, so during arguments I say some pretty mean things...not right but I think pretending nothing happened for a month without a "bad day" (i.e., the anniversary of our last D-Day coming and going during this, not to mention she doesn't even remember date, nor how long ago D-Day was).

So Friday I sat down and laid out my rules if she wants to be together (she texted me earlier that day that she didn't want divorce, but didn't know if our marriage was fixable). My rules were (I think) pretty simple: continue individual counseling, go to a 12 step program (not alcohol), IF I go to counseling on my own I decide when I'm ready, and basically I set the rules for reconciliation (again, everything we've read says this).

She asked when I needed an answer by, I said Monday so I could get out of lease on the apartment I rented. She said she'd like to talk to counselor (Tues is her next appointment). When I asked why, she said, because the counselor thinks I'm being verbally abusive to her. Again, say mean things at my lowest, angriest point? Yes. Is it right? No. But, I'm starting to feel like I'm being made the bad guy again (1st time I shouldered responsibility for not meeting her needs, this time I realized she's cheated in every serious relationship she's been in). At this point I kind of gave up, said don't bother...if the counselor thinks I'm verbally abusive and controlling you, please just remind her the emotional abuse (and yelling back I might add) you caused by having a 2nd affair.

Am I out of my mind here? I'm sure there's healthier ways to deal with a horrible day, but sometimes the anger/hurt needs to be expressed. This last time she's talking about, the argument only started when I asked the "what were you thinking question" (in tears) and she got defensive. Ugh.

Thanks for listening

 
By MsCandy2u on Sun, 02-26-12, 14:28

Twotimeloser
Can I ever relate. My story is quite similar.
Months after I confronted my husband about his affair we started couples therapy. After the second time he lied in therapy I refused to go back and actually walked out of therapy after telling the counselor that he was lying and I refused to go to therapy as long a he was not telling the truth. I have since then found a group therapy that I start tomorrow.
We can't change who and what they are. Only they can do that for themselves.
I have laid down the law. Quite simple......let your actions prove what your words never did.
My marriage is in limbo right now and will continue to be so until he straightens up a and flies right or I have had enough of his crap and leave. The choice is his.
If she did it twice I would believe that she needs help far more than you do and it's time to heal your heart and move on, but the choice is yours.

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By So Alone on Sun, 02-26-12, 16:16

She new the pain she caused the first time around and still chose to make the same bad decision a second time. I think you are right in your anger and this has more to do with her then you. You have the right to ask questions and she needs to answer them.

I have let my husband know that I believe him when he says he made a mistake but if he does it again I am out. I can forgive once but if he can do this to me a second time, knowing the pain it caused, then he really didn't learn his lesson the first time around and there is a good chance he will keep doing it. He has to prove to me he is remorseful and as sorry as he says.

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By vmmusa on Mon, 02-27-12, 12:42

Isn't it odd how therapist look at what the BS is doing or not doing while they should be focused on the cheater and the lies and deception they committed to another person. Yes what you said in anger may hurt but that's a reaction to her actions or inaction. I get sick of hearing I need to meet her needs, not get mad, be the good husband that helps his wife see how good of a guy I am, WTF. My wife cheated once that I know about and I can say without a doubt I would not go through this crap again. I wont go to therapy any longer because It felt like I was made the issue, not her actions.

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By hiswife84 on Tue, 02-28-12, 11:57

You sound like youre right to be pissed & right to end it. If she can't decide to stay married on her own without another adult tellin her what to do or after realizing she ruined the marriage then let her go.

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By TwoTimeLoser on Tue, 02-28-12, 17:43

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Exactly where my mind was at...I was about ready to tell her I hope her & her therapist will be very happy together. It's still so very hard though, as I'm sure you all know. Thank you all for making me feel like I'm not the crazy one here.

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